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I like Gary Johnson, I think he's actually a better Libertarian standard bearer than Ron Paul, he had a lot of success as Governor of New Mexico, and has some terrific ideas for how to fix what's ailing the nation, particularly from ...
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EXETER, N.H. -- Former two-term New Mexico governor and GOP hopeful Gary Johnson is dropping out of the Republican nomination race to run as a Libertarian candidate, NBC News has confirmed.
Johnson's campaign spokesman Joe Hunter cited Johnson's lack of exposure within the Republican party as a main reason for his decision to seek the Libertarian nomination.
Johnson appeared in only two of more than a dozen nationally televised debates and had trouble getting his shoestring campaign off the ground in early states. He will make an official announcement next Wednesday at a press conference in Santa Fe.
"His exclusion from the debates and lack of acknowledgement from the Republican establishment has been very frustrating," Hunter told NBC News. "His commitment since day one to get his message out."
Johnson completed the filing with just hours to spare after a campaign staff mistake and a last-minute red-eye flight from Arizona to Manchester.
As New Mexico governor, he often worked with the Libertarian party to advance his agenda so this move is not entirely out of his comfort zone.
PEOPLE ! I know that most American's carry deep party affiliations, it is almost as if it is ingrained in our DNA. But if we want real change, we can't elect anyone that is bought and paid for by the status quo!
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The attempts to ignore RON PAUL by the "WHORE" mainstream media, and sheeple such as yourself have failed!! Make a true stand for Liberty!! The NWO and the Banksters will be DEFEATED!! Join the RON PAUL REVOLUTION!!
Any third party is better than the two party system totally sold out to special interests. There is ZERO difference between the Dems and the Reps - if you have any doubts just look at what happens in the House and Congress - shameless self interest while the ship is slowly sinking.
Exactly...He must have gotten his hands on some Primo Maui Waui to come up with this wacky idea.....The only thing this fool running as a Libertarian and the other Half-Crazy possibly running as an Independent will do is Guarantee a second term for Obama and another 4 years for his "Fundamentally Transforming America"
Better a second term for Obama than a Newt in the White House. If more people would vote Libertarian we wouldn't have the stupid payroll tax debate and tax breaks for coal burning cars (Electric cars effectively burn the fuel used to generate the electricity.).
Hey Gary Johnson - if you can't get above the 2% line in either the Republican or Democratic Party, you won't get much more than that nationally.
The only third party candidate so surpass 10% was Ross Perot in 1992 (18%). There are some who say the real reason he ran was to wreck Bush 41's re-election and it might be true. His business sense and respect caused him to poll at 29% and growing. His campaign suddenly paused to reconsider his run when nothing was apparently wrong. His flaky hiatus caused people to abandon him.
newday - that was then, this is now. The odds are stacked too much against third parties. Can't get in debates, have to expend far more resources than the major party nominees just to get on ballots, etc. And then there's the realization that even if any voter agreed 100 percent with a third party candidate, they might not vote that way because they don't want to throw their vote away.
First, Johnson may not get the Libertarian nomination. Part of that party will like his legitimate stature (former governor, not the failed presidential candidate part). But part of that party will probably not find Johnson to be a "pure" enough libertarian.
I like Gary Johnson, I think he's actually a better Libertarian standard bearer than Ron Paul, he had a lot of success as Governor of New Mexico, and has some terrific ideas for how to fix what's ailing the nation, particularly from the recent rash of fiscally progressive policies out of the Democrats. But I'm not sure this is a great move for him. If the Republicans put forth Newt Gingrich I'll be happy to toss my vote to Johnson and the Libertarian party, but right now I think Libertarians would probably be better served to try and back Ron Paul through the Republican party and attempt to have him lead a coalition through one of the two major parties.
Between the malfeasance of the fiscal progressives and social conservatives it's no wonder that the fastest growing group in the electorate are independents sick of both parties 'base'. For the majority of those socially moderate / liberal but fiscally conservative types, the Libertarian philosophy offers a nice sanctuary of sanity, but as a Party proof of validity in concept is still running up against the entrenched interests of the past. Working within one of those parties to take control and initiate needed change however... that could work wonders.
Paul: you misinterpret my post: The poster said that the only 3rd party candidate to surpass 10% was Perot. Roosevelt did it in 1912. The truth is that with the current set up, no third party candidate would be able to win.
The real nightmare of a third (or more) party candidate is if they do well and no candidate reaches the minimum electoral votes, so the election is determined by Congress instead of the voters. Yes, the electoral college is not the actual popular vote, but at least it's a more representative reflection of the vote that Congress may cast.
In a Democratic Republic, we feel cheated when we as voter feel that our votes didn't determine the results regardless of who we supported whether it's electoral trumping popular vote, the Supreme Court deciding whether recount challenges can go forth, or our representatives voting for us. I think most people would prefer a run off like it is done for local races.
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From the guy that wanted to defund education in New Mexico. The only thing that stopped him was that both houses of the legislature in New Mexico wasn't going to let him balance the state budget on the backs of teachers.
I had to look this up, but Johnson cut New Mexico's general spending, and the ONLY thing he increase (by 33%) was FUNDING education. The purpose was for what liberals claim is through more money to public education.
In three years, the performance of the public schools DROPPED instead of improving, so he moved to institute school vouchers to allow more people in failing schools to enroll their kids in a school that is doing a better job.
What school vouchers do, and should only be allowed to do, is allow the parents to use the tax money they would be paying to the public school for their kids in the school of their choice.
I don't know how New Mexico funds schools, but in the two states I have live in, Funding is made up of local state and federal taxes. The average state pays 44% of the cost per student. The fed adds 6% of the cost per student and the remaining 50% is local taxes. This has been altered in recent years so that Richer districts get less state aid and poorer get more state aid.
APS costs about $11,500 per Student. My local taxes (real-estate set for schools & income taxes) Amounts to about $1200 in real-estate and $125 - $150 in other taxes. The local half of funding is $5,750 A maximum voucher in Ohio is $2250 - and you only get a voucher if you are below a certain income level.
When the local school loses a student, they lose $5750 in funding from the Fed and State. And lose only $1350 in local fund keeping $4400 for every student they lose.
BTW The average cost for educating a student in private school is about $6500 per year. $4500 for elementary, 6500 for middle school and $8500 for High school.
Every state should want to use vouchers because they only pay $900 in taxes for a voucher under this system instead of paying about $3600 more. Better yet the federal money isn't even needed.
Here's the kickers, My and many other private school parents have experience performance improvement in our kids by moving them to private schools. And no, I never received a voucher, eat rice, beans, and hot dogs, never eat out, and get help from relatives to keep my kids in private school. May kids are now in the top 10 percentile in the nation - instead of something less.
I know that most American's carry deep party affiliations, it is almost as if it is ingrained in our DNA. But if we want real change, we can't elect anyone that is bought and paid for by the status quo!
Exactly.... as long as so many continue to vote for one end of the Donkephant or the other, all we'll ever have is status quo as it's the same animal. I, for one, can't take much more of the status quo and don't want it for my children.
So right! To many people regard party affiliation like religion or sports affiliation. In truth they are all choices. No one is born a Republican or Democrat. Just like no one is born a Browns fan or Muslim. Gary Johnson seems like a decent man. The same cannot be said about Newt Gingrich. He's been a Lutheran, Southern Baptist, and now a Catholic. He's been married three times. The first to his former high school geometry teacher. The last to a woman 23 years his junior whom he had a long affair with while he was still married to his second wife.
It is amazing to me that all people seem to remember about Newt is his infidelity. I am far more worried about the fact that he racked up an enormous number of ethics violations in the House, paid his way out of most of them, was kicked out of office by his own party, has made a bundle of money by "consulting" as a "historian" (revisionist history, not to mention undeclared lobbying), has been less than truthful in a variety of situations, and still believes that he is owed the presidency!
My criteria for a president is someone who will put America First, and will lead and not put party affiliation above whats good for America. That goes for both the Donkeys and Elephants.
Nurse-1006. I haven't chosen a candidate yet, but from checking in on Newt. His big problem was the infidelity. The 84 of the ethics charges were dropped because they lacked sufficient evidence. The one he sign off on was so he didn't get nailed for not giving full answers to the committee.
The Ethics charge he signed off on involved his alleged using of his college course to benefit his politics and that therefore 501c3 that was distributing the video of the course was in violation of it's non-profit status - making his payments for making the videos taxable - which he did not report as taxable income (also called tax evasion)
Three years later - the IRS of all people had studied the videos and determined that the videos were educational, not biased, and did not support any political party or candidate. They ruled the 501c3 as not having violated IRS non-profit status AND that Newt had reported the income appropriately.
What I find is most charges leveled by the Left are overstated, and quite often very inaccurate. I check out everything I say and find they should be trusted far less than the far right!
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I liked Johnson, but I think he supported a flat tax. The only flat tax I am interested in is a 0% tax. If he is into that, then I can get on his train.
It must be quite interesting to live in your world. You think that stuff would not be possible without an income tax? Review history, you'll find you are mistaken.
Schools!? don't get me started on those leftie bastions of socialist double-speak! Teaching my kids that the earth isn't the center of the universe! Who do they think they are!?!
Maxx, I'm a liberal and celebrate Christmas but I also respect all those who do not celebrate it including those of the Jewish faith who celebrate Hanukkah. Your attempt at broad-brush painting only conservatives as Christians isn't remotely accurate. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Maxx, think about it.
With as broken as the House and the Senate is, which will only get worse, it is pretty irrelevant who the damn president is, or what their "message" is.
How that is disregarded term after term I'll never know, but many do seem to put more stock in whom's president than in those that actually are responsible for most all policy and legislation.
He's almost a left wing libertarian if you can wrap that concept around your mind. I was on some who to vote for questionnaire site and surprisingly when I finished he ranked just below Obama 92% to 89%. Romney came in dead last at 6%.
I fully support third party candidates. The two ruling parties are broken and owned by corporate interests. It almost comes down to - are you voting for GE or Haliburton??? I will vote for neither the Rebugnican nor Obama. Funny now that everything Ross Perot warned of is coming to pass, isn't it??
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Third Party Alternative: Right idea, wrong man. Trouble is the best person for the job, Huntsman, isn't getting any traction. Nevertheless almost anyone is better than Obama except Bachmann, Gingrich, Perry, and Santorem. It's a toss up with Romney and Paul. Let's have some viable choices.
Of course, legalizing and taxing marijuana will most certainly help create revenue without having to tax the rich.....which means few jobs will be created, but they'll have a lot more money to p*ss away...
He is being paid by the Gaseous Old Pharts to run as a third party. There will be even more entries also sponsored by the Gaseous Old Pharts. That way when the Greatest President in my lifetime beats the pants off of whom ever wins the Gaseous Old Pharts contest they will sqeal like the little piggies that they are that it is the third, fourth, and fifth parties fault.
The Gaseous Old Pharts could run Gingrich, Paul and Romney on their ticket and they still could not beat President Obama. Because the American People recognize that he is the only one in Washington that truly cares about the whole country, not just the one percent.
The Libertarian candidate will get the same 300K votes they always get- not to worry about that one affecting this election.....the only exception would be if Ron Paul decided to run as a Libertarian, but he won't do that, because he knows d*mned well that Obama would win easily if he did that, and in his world, Mitt Romney is the lesser of those two evils, regardless of what Paul might be saying about him now.
I don't dislike Gary Johnson though I do not believe he's the man for THIS job (and have known he is for some time) but he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. He's the Ralph Nader of the other side...he will do nothing but pull votes from the Republicans. I don't think he'll pull many though. This will be my first year NOT voting for my party (I am a registered Dem) and I really hope that we don't see a lot of third party vote pulling from the Republican nominee because we desperately need change...and not the kind that was promised four years ago.
Johnson did have the BEST quote from the Republican debates thus far...I have it posted in my office (and every day have to explain who he is when someone reads it):
I do agree with some of his ideas - yes indeed, it is time to decriminalize reefer maybe even legalize it completely, we have to have some way to get rid of the cartels and gangs - that would be the first step, no doubt would put a big dent in their money train and everyone must know by now that reagan and bush 1's war on drugs always has been an ineffective tool to award more money to the local law enforcement and thereby win their votes. I'd much rather my law enforcement on every level be working to rid society of real criminals, those who are raping, robbing, killing, and abducting working class citizens. Not so worried about the upper 1% - they have enough money to hire retired blackwater body guards, but the rest of us need police who are ready to protect us from the real criminals, if they don't have to worry about the gangs then they have more time to do the job they were trained and hired to do. now on getting rid of the department of education, OSHA, the EPA, transporation dept, dept of health and human services - that would be the wrong thing to do because as a nation we must have some laws that cross over states boarders and there are some causes that apply to al of us. Good news - the President's approval rating is up to 49% today, as this dirty little tax war on the working middle class continues I really expect that to improve on a regular basis, even if the republicans and bonehead come to their senses and agree to extend the tax cut for working middle class people, those of us who are actually in the working middle class will never forget this little folly of theirs.
Max - you don't own Christianity, you most certainly don't own mine, I've been a Christian probably longer than you have been alive, I know my Bible pretty well (went to David Lipscomb University, a Church of Christ supported and regulated university where we had to take Bible as a real class every day and it was taught just like a history class so we would all get the full impact and history of the real living word), and I do know the things neocons like to ignore in the Bible - "it will be harder for a wealthy man to go to heaven than for a camel to enter into the eye of the needle, You shall not treat a wealthy man any better than you do a poor one, and my favorite - especially this time of year: Jesus Christ was not born to a wealthy or affluent family, he was born into a working middle class family. So, yes, from this lifelong Christian and Democrat (who also owns and can shoot a gun very well, thank you for asking): Merry Christmas! Happy New Year.
Union Baby: I think if Jesus were on earth today you would probably find him at a Union hall (probably Carpenters Local 001), or at an Occupy encampment.
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Gary Johnson was elected Governor of New Mexico based on the idea that he would cut government spending and balance the state budget, something the GOP always promises but never delivers. After 4 years he won reelection because he did what he said he would do. Within the GOP the only candidate who would seriously attempt to balance the budget is Ron Paul, and the GOP establishment will never allow him to win the nomination. After Ron Paul is defeated, if his supporters do not abandon the GOP and support Gary Johnson then it will mean they never believed in what Paul stood for.
u know what i can respect ron paul and gary johnson then flipper meet and newt at least they be consitentwith their views,and no i am not a libertirain.
Your reservation to the nearest FEMA Camp has been confirmed... wake-up!! Obama?? Is your post some sort of SICK JOKE?? Wake up sheeple!!
Sorry, Gary, even though I have voted Libertarian for the last twenty years, I will have to vote for the Republican candidate this time. Four more years of Obama is unthinkable.
The "Whore" maninstream media, along with the NWO have failed!! Ron Paul is now #1 in Iowa. Most are missing the POINT when it comes to The RON PAUL REVOLUTION... we have wittnessed a GREAT AWAKENING IN AMERICA, even if Ron Paul does not win the nomination...The Awakening for LIBERTY has begun, and soon the "RECKONING" shall follow... to run these Criminal Politicans and Banksters of the NWO, OUT of this Country and OUR GOVERNMENT!! NOT ON OUR WATCH!!
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Chuck Todd became NBC News? political director in March 2007. He also serves as NBC News' on-air political analyst for "NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams," "Today," "Meet the Press and MSNBC, including "Hardball with Chris Matthews."
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